dennisgorelik: 2020-06-13 in my home office (Default)
Google Ads team from Gurugram, New Delhi, India keep calling me.

I have $57/day spending limit on my Google ads account. Apparently, that budget is an attractive target for them.
Currently my Google Ads account spends ~$53/week (13% of budget limit).
So this Google Ads Gurugram telemarketing crew asks me to setup various experiments in order to trick me to spend more.

Gurugram crew does not care about my business (job boards) and talks about hypothetical example of selling shoes.

Gurugram crew does not care about my goal to keep CPA (cost per action/acquisition) low. They just go through their script again and again ("try ad extensions, then try more search keywords, then try display ad campaign").

I asked Akansha(?) -- a "supervisor" on that Google Ads Gurugram crew about their team success metrics.
She refused to tell me what goals their team is trying to accomplish and how her superiors evaluate the quality of her work.
Here's the end part of our conversation:
~~~~~~~~
Dennis: ... I am not asking about how it [sitelink ad extension] works. I know how it works.
My question is how it is important for your team success metric. What, specifically, will it improve?

Akansha: I'm sorry, you are asking how it would be successful for me. I'm sorry, Dennis, it's not going to be successful for me, it's gonna be successful for you. Not for me.
And I am not running this Google Ads account. You are running this Google Ads account. You are spending a huge amount. So 50 dollars a day on one campaign, another campaign 7 dollars a day. 57 dollars a day you are spending [here Akansha confused "actual spending" vs "daily spending limit"] each day on your Google Ads account.
I've been assigned ...
I am not doing anything for my success -- I am already successful. I do not need success through your Google Ads account. So, thank you so much for asking this question, but I think it is irrelevant a little bit for me to answer that, because it's not going to be successful for me."

Dennis: You are saying your own success is irrelevant for you?

Akansha: How would it be successful for me if you add Google Site extension link to your Google Ads account?

Dennis: I don't know. That's exactly my question: why are you asking me to do this [add sitelink] if it is not going to make you successful?

Akansha: It's not going to... I am already successful like I said. I am the supervisor. I am already successful. Thank you so much for your question.

Dennis: Why are you asking to do it if it does not make you successful?

Akansha: [Interrupts] ... I'm not asking you to do it forcefully. I am asking you ... in fact, I'm not even ask you. I just said that this extension is going to help you.
I am not saying I will be successful by adding this.
I am sorry, Dennis, I think the question was really irrelevant. I think I should be hanging up now, because this is something that is related to my profession. And I cannot be ... I should not be answerable to you regarding my profession "how it is going to be successful for me".
It's not going to be successful for me.
I was helping my colleague Jebron. He said that you require a supervisor.

Dennis: No, I did not. So he lied then.
I did not say that I require a supervisor. He said that he wants to invite supervisor. And asked me if I want to. I did not say that I need supervisor.

Akansha: No issues. Even if he did not say that -- I still was here to help you.
But if you are asking questions about my profession, I am very sorry, I am restricted to that. I am not going to share that information.

Dennis: OK.

Akansha: Thank you so much for your time and I wish you the lovely day ahead.
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dennisgorelik: (2009)
Yesterday Priya could not extract file from our HTTP POST request.
Today we found out why.

See below the highlights of our email discussion.

Dennis:
Priya,

Could you please cooperate with us on what I and Andrey requested from you?

You already refused Skype session with us.
Skype is the fastest way to resolve technical difficulties like that.

But if you are not able to troubleshoot your environment issues with us over Skype - please at least send us what we asked for:
- Code snippets (Indeed Apply resume file extraction vs PostJobFree request file extraction).
- Value from $post['resumeData'] variable you are getting from PostJobFree request.

Priya:
Sorry about my Skype, I normally do not get online unless very emergency since its very distracting, but I tend to check and reply all emails received I hope you agree.
...

Please see attached
1. the resume after save
2. resume content from post before save
3. post data raw, two versions, without xss filter and with xss filter
4. indeed apply
5. postjobfree apply

Dennis:
Priya,

1) Thank you, that clarifies what is happening in your system a little.

2) candidate_post_raw.txt contains only part of resumeData (about 70% of original resumeData listed in http://requestb.in/xfzso4xg?inspect ).
...

Andrey:
Priya,

I already tried to post resumeData to your prod endpoint few hours ago

Priya:
yes, I found it, and it works :)
see attached, please send some more so I can validate

Dennis:
Priya,

Good.
The attachment looks correct.

So what was the root cause for the problem?

Priya:
It seem I had a copy paste issue on requestbin, the main logic was in place and no change required actually
dennisgorelik: (2009)
We are trying to find out why Priya can not extract file from our HTTP POST request.

We sent single HTTP POST request with single base64-encoded file.
Priya emailed us back two incorrectly decoded files. Different size for both files.

-----
Dennis:
Why did you send us 2 files?
Did Andrey send you two requests?
...

Priya:
Hi Dennis, your questions sounds complaining, not questions actually
...
Why did you send us 2 files? - there were several tests, I sent you
last two, there are done on same data you posted to requestbin, only
the job id and key changed to be used on dev.

Did Andrey send you two requests? see above

Dennis:
3) You are saying that data changed between requests.
Do you mean that while you were playing with our single requestbin request you created different sets of data?
Could it mean that you actually did not accurately copy resumeData value from requestbin?

4) The code that you posted below - did you use exactly that code or you create that code only after you emailed two file attachments to us?


Priya:
3. Only when I see the format was not readable, I attempted by
changing the base64, you can ignore these test files, generate a new
requestbin with proper filename, I will adjust the code without trim
and test again when you confirm
4.same
-----

It is hard to understand what Priya means under "same".

Andrey interpreted Priya's "same" as:
"I emailed you the same code that I used to extract file from your HTTP POST request".

Unfortunately, that interpretation contradicts (3).
It also does not match with "either or" question that I asked in (4).
It also does not explain why Priya was getting wrong results.

The actual interpretation of "same" is:
"My answer to 4. is the same as my answer to 3. (that means I sent for your review the code that I did NOT actually use)."

Update:
Finale

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